Magnum_44 3 yr. ago. Stieb drew just 1.4 percent, or seven votes, of 506 votes cast in 2004 and that was that. But until this year, Stieb suffered from what baseball people euphemistically call a "makeup" problem. Fast, professional, neat and competent", "Kyle worked diligently both days. He has just enough of it left to present one more altar to the gods and say goodbye.". . In the shortened 1981 season, he became the first starter in the history of the Toronto franchise to have a winning season11-10. I felt like I was stuck. Welcome to Captain Ahab: The Story of Dave Stieb, part two of a four-part series.Written and directed by Jon BoisWritten and produced by Alex RubensteinSubscribe: http://goo.gl/Nbabae Enter the Secret Base: http://www.sbnation.com/secret-base Follow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/secretbase Follow us on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/secretbasesbn Follow us on Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@secretbasesbnCheck out our full video catalog: http://goo.gl/9pMHRV Visit our playlists: http://goo.gl/NvpZFF Explore SB Nation: http://www.sbnation.com he says. But if you had to look at everything, I think I was the best.. A clear, bulleted list of tasks and materials is exactly what I want to see. He is ahead of Hall of Famers Don Drysdale, Warren Spahn, Lemon, Tom Glavine, Gaylord Perry, Phil Niekro, Steve Carlton, Ferguson Jenkins, Jim Bunning, Robin Roberts, and many others. It's not the big things in life that make you, it's the little things. He was a pitcher now, for certain. Disappointed by what they had seen, they nevertheless decided to stay around long enough to see him throw. He was 5-2 with a 2.13 earned run average in his month there. ", "We are extremely impressed!!! ", "You guys are great. And when he struck out Steve Kemp to end the game, he fairly leaped for joy. "I don't think he has any weaknesses," says Baltimore Manager Joe Altobelli. Injuries also played a role in curtailing Stiebs career and preventing him from accumulating more of the counting stats Hall of Fame voters so value. Copyright 2000-2023 Sports Reference LLC. The frustrated fan is roughly half the age of the celebrity guest. But you can't be taking chances with those young arms." "He's so tight. A mishandled ground ball led to a fifth Yankee run in the sixth. Stieb lacked his old velocity, but his sinker was sinking and his slider was breaking. I couldnt be happier with the outcome! Keep up the excellent work! Soon it's gonna close on this phase of his life. I also loved the estimate! I never saw a nastier slider in the 80's. In fact you can't really find a pitcher who was as dominant throughout the entire 80's. He threw a no-hitter and like was an out away from 2 or 3 others on top of a perfect game. Directed by Jon Bois. Bois and Rubenstein are the greatest documentary makers, ever. Other statistics attest to this as well. To this day, we debate what it all meant, and where his legacy bel. And the control. Phone: 602.496.1460 The latest documentary series from Secret Base, which brought us such treasures as "A History of the Seattle Mariners" and "The Bob Emergency," traces the career of Dave Stieb, who pitched. Stieb looked at some of Saberhagens other accomplishments. Morris had the most wins, but Stieb had the lower ERA and he wasn't even close to me, I think. us. . Stieb came to the Instructional League with two pitches, a "heavy" fastball that naturally dropped and a slider developed for him by Newman at Southern Illinois and polished by Toronto's minor league pitching instructor, Bob Humphreys. A Patent Pending People Search Process. That gives him a psychological edge." A young man wearing a hangdog look approaches a parking security staffer with a question. Definitely will recommend to others", "You have a marvelous and skilled crew. Instead, I watched a ton of baseball and spent the off-seasons reading about baseball. To apply for a job with Ward Construction, please send a cover letter together with your C.V. to: Ward@wardconst.com. Efficient, professional, and timely", "It was nice to know I could trust Jesse with my house and key and not worry about being there. Another Toronto scout, Don Welke, had said the boy could run, throw and hit with some power. This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google privacy policy and terms of serviceapply. Meanwhile, he still plays electric guitar, a hobby he picked up in 1985, around the time the Jays were heading for their first playoff appearance. With all the mistakes leading to runs, it's a testing type of circumstance, a challenge." Could he just sneak in, get a photo signed and then leave? Before that, he was one of MLB's best pitchers, and made a triumphant return to the mound in 1998 after a five-year hiatus. ", "Always happy with your work! He'll go over to the player and compliment him. (Photo by Focus on Sport/Getty Images). His career 122 ERA+ is tied with Hall of Famer Bob Feller. All Rights Reserved. Instead, he spent a few years playing in the outfield for a local softball team as one of its home run hitters before the majors beckoned again for a short comeback in 1998. We decided to draft him. Stieb had the highest Wins Above Replacement among pitchers forthe 80s, by a wide margin at 48.6, while Morris ranked 12th at 30.4. ", "You and your crew are far superior to any other repair people or workers weve had in the past", "You were very professional, very fair in your bid and the house looks excellent", "You did what you said you would do and you did it well, and did it for the price quoted. "All he's got on me is two Cy Youngs and a World Series that he actually pitched in, Stieb said. A rapt audience of players and coaches gathered. Data Provided By In 1985, Stieb signed with the Blue Jays what was then one of the richest contracts in baseball. He was asked to be a leader at 21. Send. A bobblehead giveaway will feature the likenesses of Stieb, Roy Halladay and Pat Hentgen on the same pedestal. I just didn't even care about baseball while I was on the mend.". Fast workers. Just because Dave Stieb played north of the border, was snubbed by writers of the time, and, occasionally, played on some bad teams, it doesnt mean that he shouldnt get recognition by the Blue Jays and by the Baseball Hall of Fame for his Hall of Fame-worthy career. We would not hesitate to absolutely recommend this outstanding company for all your painting needs. Mastercraft does a very professional job. David was a major league pitcher when most of his buddies from school were working in Chevron stations. Stieb won 140 games in the 1980s, the second-highest total by a pitcher in that decade, behind only his rival (and later teammate) Jack Morris. You promised a quality job and that is what we got. Eventual triumph. ", "Always showed up on time. Kyle is an excellent foreman. Very pleased with all your company. Showing Editorial results for dave stieb. "I like rock and roll and heavy metal. The quality was consistent all the way through, with Part 3 easily the best. Part 2 just tore my soul apartPart 3 just put it back together, Sprinted out to my backyard see if, like Dave Stieb, I too have spent 20+ years on this Earth without realizing I have a rocket launcher attached to my shoulder. The Jays picked him in the 5th round of the 1978 draft (the second year we were part of the draft) out of Southern Illinois University. We would not hesitate to absolutely recommend this outstanding company for all your painting needs. However, in his career, he was in the top 10 in WAR by pitchers in the AL in seven seasons, six seasons in the top 10 of ERA, eight seasons among the top 10 lowest in hits allowed per nine innings, six seasons in the top 10 in ERA+, and five seasons among the top 10 in innings pitched, complete games, and strikeouts. Stieb made the diplomatic mission, thanking the Jays for the "generous contract" and promising to stay with Toronto long enough to make the community proud of its team. As we'll demonstrate shortly, by a variety of metrics Dave Stieb was the best pitcher in baseball for at least a four-year period, from 1982-85. Stieb started it with Dunedin in the Class A Florida State League. [5] He also took a no-hitter into the ninth inning in a 1985 game; this bid was broken up by back-to-back home runs and Stieb being replaced in the game before he recorded an out in the ninth. Stieb's autobiography, Tomorrow I'll Be Perfect, was co-written with Kevin Boland and released in 1986. Rule Changes Probable Pitchers Starting Lineups Transactions Injury Report World Baseball Classic MLB Draft All-Star Game MLB Pipeline Postseason History. ", Jones, however, appealed to Stieb's sense of team spirit. vs. DET 0.1 IP, 2 H, 0 SO, 0 BB, 1 ER, Rookie Status: If I keep doing this, it can only get better,'" he says. In the next one he'll be a . Stieb had a high-strung personality and was known as a fierce competitor on the mound; he was regularly seen having animated conversations with himself during pitches when in difficult situations. He initially retired after the 1993 season due to back problems but after four years of retirement, Stieb rejoined the Blue Jays in 1998, when he pitched in 19 games (three starts) with an ERA+ of 98. Dave Stieb wrote an autobiography in his late twenties, which is unheard of, but its tough to blame him. How easy you made the project and what a perfect job you did", "Keep doing what you are doing! "He's the best fielding pitcher in baseball," says his manager, Bobby Cox. Author: Ron Fimrite. You are honest and run a professional business", "Service is outstanding. They couldnt do a better job and a 100% warranty, Mastercraft honors their contract", "They are very good and will go the extra mile for you and that counts a lot", "Excellent service. Selective censoring on Google Inside imagery 'Belt of Orion' by Roger Berry. But they had at least done some pitching along the way. I have fun with it.". "He thanked me for my apology," says Stieb. Dave apologized to me for that incident and that sort of thing has never happened again. It's all in what they call the rhythm. You'd have to be a Gandhi to handle some of the pressure Dave's had, and Gandhi couldn't have pitched five shutouts for the Toronto Blue Jays. 2023 Mastercraft Painting & Decorating, Inc., Rights Reserved. Works (John and Mike) were on time, neat and clean, pleasant to be around and very skilled at their job", "Thanks for seeing the job through to get it right", "Pleased that you were reliable and honest about doing the painting while I was away. He was a natural, one in a million. Then, a few days later, bullpen coach Sal Butera caught him in the 'pen. "The biggest thing to look at is the kind of team he was on (the Detroit Tigers) and the kind of team I was on, Stieb said. . 13901 Parkway Commons Dr. Suite A, Oklahoma City, OK 73134. But he was the best pitcher in the AL and probably the best pitcher in baseball for the 1980s. The former MLB pitcher lives here. We didn't find out he could pitch until April 1. Search Details, 2) Social Media Profiles & More It's a funny thing, but most converted infielders and outfielders have good control, especially infielders. The brushback pitch was an integral part of his repertoire to back batters off the plate,[16] and was especially tough on right-handed hitters in this respect. Again, Thank you", "Quick accurate bid, finish on time, excellent quality work, nice painters", "I was especially pleased with how much pride your company takes in its work", "Very impressed on time, cleaned up very nicely, efficient. 293 Dave Stieb Photos and Premium High Res Pictures - Getty Images All Entertainment News Archival Browse 293 dave stieb stock photos and images available, or start a new search to explore more stock photos and images. The definition may have changed, but baseball blends more easily into his conversation these days. 14,202nd in major league history) We all can learn a lot from Dave Stieb about patience, fulfillment, and passion. Stieb has a higher WAR than five modern Hall of Fame starters, or starters who played most of their career after World War II. [4] Previously, on September 24 and 30, 1988, Stieb had no-hitters broken up with two outs and two strikes in the top of the ninth inning in two consecutive starts. [7] After an excellent 1990 season, a series of shoulder and back injuries early in the 1991 season ended his effective pitching years, culminating in a 46 season in 1992 that resulted in his release after the season ended. Photos by John Lott. Bob LaMonte, who lives only a short drive from Stieb's parents' modest Spanish-style home in San Jose and who was Stieb's high school history teacher and special teams football coach (Stieb averaged 42 yards a boot in his two seasons as a punter). Dave Stieb is seen by many as the best pitcher in baseball throughout much of the 1980's. Jays fans certainly know Stieb as the first real star and the cornerstone of a new franchise around whom the 1992 World Championship team was built. I'm a real competitor who just doesn't deal too well with failure. Win Expectancy, Run Expectancy, and Leverage Index calculations provided by Tom Tango of InsideTheBook.com, and co-author of The Book: Playing the Percentages in Baseball. Film data from TMDb. But by traditional measures, the former Toronto Blue Jays ace might have looked far short of a plaque, with sciatica and other ailments chasing Stieb away from the game in his mid-30s and limiting him to 176 wins. I totally respect him and his skills and what he did. Report this film, shed real tears when that beautiful blue beacon shot up into the sky, After I graduated from college, I pretty much stopped watching movies for about five years. "I would not get on stage. A dropped fly ball in the second inning had given the Yankees four unearned runs. Kyle and Chris were not only the hardest workers we have seen, but were also courteous, on-time every day, and took great pride in their workmanship. Friendly, efficient, trustworthy, and treat everyone like family", "Jess & CJ are excellent representatives of Mastercraft! The next year, when he finished at 12-15, he played in the All Star Game. Do you have a blog? Dave Stieb Position: Pitcher Bats: Right Throws: Right 6-0 , 185lb (183cm, 83kg) Born: July 22, 1957 in Santa Ana, CA us More bio, uniform, draft, salary info 7x All-Star ERA Title 37 10 Become a Stathead & surf this site ad-free. Bois and Rubenstein are the greatest documentary makers, ever. Both Lemon, a Hall of Famer who won 207 games for Cleveland in his 13 seasons, and Walters, who won 198 games for Philadelphia and Cincinnati in 16 pitching seasons, had been big league third basemen whose throws had such a bewilderingly natural break that protests from their first basemen may have hastened their conversion. It defined me then, not now.'". News. Stieb, who was known for his devastating slider, was the ace for the Blue Jays in the 1980s, and in the 80s, he won 140 games, which is only second to Hall of Famer (and Stieb's 1992 Blue Jays teammate) Jack Morris. Especially when the Jays put him on a bobblehead with Pat Hentgen, a longtime friend, and Roy Halladay, a future Hall of Famer. We were asking an awful lot of him. He has one of the great hidden pitching primes in MLB history. Mattick recalls having heard something about Stieb's pitching, but he and LaMacchia were there to look at him strictly as an outfielder. He insists he does not compare himself to the others. . [18], Stieb currently resides in Reno, Nevada, where he works as a building contractor. ", Stieb pitched at Triple-A Syracuse in 1998 on his way back to the Blue Jays. Question, Comment, Feedback, or Correction? That wasn't in his personality in the past. His story could not have been told with more care. Stieb never went on the disabled list until excessive working out in 1991 gave him a herniated disk in his back, aggravated by a collision near first base that spring. Especially considering all he'd been through in the big leagues, and the high (and often unrealistic) expectations he placed on himself and his teammates. Sorry, the security guard says. "Mark Newman, our pitching coach then, had watched Dave throw a litle batting practice," Jones says. All rights reserved. I try my damndest now not to let any runs score as the result of an error. David Andrew Stieb ( / stib /; born July 22, 1957) is a former Major League Baseball right-handed starting pitcher for the Toronto Blue Jays. They also wanted him to pitch batting practice, so he threw for a few days on flat ground to build up his arm, then decided to try it on a bullpen mound. Photo by John Lott. Copyright 2023 PeekYou.com. In mid-June, he got the call every minor leaguer craves. Before that, he was one of MLB's best pitchers, and made a triumphant return to the mound in 1998 after a five-year hiatus. He has good stuff. MORE: Lou Whitaker on Cooperstown snub: 'I didn't even get daylight', I surely did not deserve to be just wiped off the map after the first-year ballot, Stieb said. On September 2, 1990, he pitched the first (and, as of 2022[update], only) no-hitter in Blue Jays history, defeating the Cleveland Indians 30. Dave Stieb spent parts of 16 seasons in the majors from 1979 through 1998 with 15 of those seasons coming with the Toronto Blue Jays. The contract, including options exercisable by the team, was for a term of ten years and specified a salary that increased to $1.9 million in 1993, $2 million in 1994, and $2.1 million in 1995. When he was playing in the 1980s, he became interested in real estate through his agent and ever since then has used his savvy to buy and sell residential properties. Source of Money. That was something else new I had to deal with. Stieb fought his way out of a bases-loaded jam in the eighth, striking out Butch Wynegar on three pitches. Then he thought of his old adversaries in the press corps. Who he was: Dave Stieb made his only appearance on the writers ballot for the Baseball Hall of Fame in 2004. 228mins "I was almost naive enough to think, 'Oh, if I just say yes, I'll be on the big-league team.' He smiled. Dave Steib remains the Toronto Blue Jays all-time leader in many pitching categories The Toronto Blue Jays selected Dave Stieb in the 5th round of the MLB draft in 1978. Very friendly and do quality work", "John's work far exceeded our expectation! As weve chronicled here at Call To The Pen in recent weeks, Toronto Blue Jays legend Dave Stieb has been overlooked and underappreciated for decades. Dave Stieb didn't become a pitcher until five years ago, but now he's one of the best, 2023 ABG-SI LLC. For Stieb, fun was flying close to the flame. After the comeback, he closed the book on baseball. "Excellent service! I would recommend your company to anyone who is looking to have a painting job done and wants to work with reliable, competitively prices professionals", "Thank you so much for a job well done - you are experts in all aspects of painting and decorating, and we look forward to working with you in the future", "Our house looks beautiful - excellent craftsmanship. The problem, of course, is that Hall of Fame committees dont generally get too deep into the weeds with sabermetrics. He glowered and muttered on the mound. "I said, 'I've come full circle. He was 5-0 there when the Blue Jays moved him in May to their Triple A Syracuse farm. Jon Bois continues to take what is at first glance mundane material and make it completely captivating. [8] He was awarded a World Series ring after the Blue Jays won their first championship later that year, despite not pitching in the postseason due to injuries. Born: He'd been pressed into duty earlier in the college season as an emergency pitcher by Southern Illinois Coach Richard (Itchy) Jones. He's got no chance.". "If he made a bad pitch, he'd slap his glove enough to get you teed off. They looked at each other quizzically. the most among any pitcher. When Mattick and LaMacchia caught Stieb's act he was a .394 hitter for the Salukis en route to a berth on The Sporting News's All-America team.
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